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		<title>By: University of Melbourne Secular Society [UMSS] &#187; Answers to Creationist Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>University of Melbourne Secular Society [UMSS] &#187; Answers to Creationist Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can read about the incident over at Homologous Legs and Divisible By Pi, both blogs from members of the Secular Society who managed to talk with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Answers to Creationist Nonsense &#124; Young Australian Skeptics</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Answers to Creationist Nonsense &#124; Young Australian Skeptics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Species last week. If you aren’t sure what I’m talking about, see my article on the shenanigans here, and read about Jack Scanlan’s experience here. Details of the event and official announcement [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Species last week. If you aren’t sure what I’m talking about, see my article on the shenanigans here, and read about Jack Scanlan’s experience here. Details of the event and official announcement [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Divisible By Pi &#187; Answers to Creationist Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Divisible By Pi &#187; Answers to Creationist Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last week. If you aren&#8217;t sure what I&#8217;m talking about, see my article on the shenanigans here, and read about Jack Scanlan&#8217;s experience here. Details of the event and official [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last week. If you aren&#8217;t sure what I&#8217;m talking about, see my article on the shenanigans here, and read about Jack Scanlan&#8217;s experience here. Details of the event and official [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moody</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Interviewer:

Read Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin.
It&#039;s a great book that details for a casual audience the discovery of the Tiktaalik, an important fossil that shows the transition of creatures from land to sea (hence it&#039;s the the finding of one of the missing links).

Shubin and his team used simple evolutionary biology, geology and logic to get a general location of the fossil - actually finding the fossil took several years (and the book breaks down the entire process with great clarity).

There&#039;s logic and a consistency to Darwin&#039;s Theory of Evolution and the evidence supporting it (once you read the details) that make it a more plausible explanation of how we came to be as opposed to Creationism. Which is why many people readily accept it.

Finally as to why Comfort&#039;s modified Origin of Species shouldn&#039;t be freely distributed, read this flyer (it&#039;ll take less than a min) which briefly mentions some of the bad science and history given in Comfort&#039;s introduction:

http://www.dontdissdarwin.com/resources/comfort_flyer_final.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Interviewer:</p>
<p>Read Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin.<br />
It&#8217;s a great book that details for a casual audience the discovery of the Tiktaalik, an important fossil that shows the transition of creatures from land to sea (hence it&#8217;s the the finding of one of the missing links).</p>
<p>Shubin and his team used simple evolutionary biology, geology and logic to get a general location of the fossil &#8211; actually finding the fossil took several years (and the book breaks down the entire process with great clarity).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s logic and a consistency to Darwin&#8217;s Theory of Evolution and the evidence supporting it (once you read the details) that make it a more plausible explanation of how we came to be as opposed to Creationism. Which is why many people readily accept it.</p>
<p>Finally as to why Comfort&#8217;s modified Origin of Species shouldn&#8217;t be freely distributed, read this flyer (it&#8217;ll take less than a min) which briefly mentions some of the bad science and history given in Comfort&#8217;s introduction:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dontdissdarwin.com/resources/comfort_flyer_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dontdissdarwin.com/resources/comfort_flyer_final.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Unconvinced theist (atheist)</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Unconvinced theist (atheist)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &#039;Interviewer.&#039; It&#039;s great that you&#039;re challenging evolutionists. That&#039;s what they want and I&#039;d like to see you develop your argument. If you think it&#039;s a &#039;lie&#039; (I can&#039;t imagine the benefit to anyone about lying about this observation but you might) then present your case. Give your evidence, your side of the story. Let&#039;s have it out. 
Btw, On The Origin Of The Species is about evolution and the evidence for it. Darwin didn&#039;t know much about modern physics so of course that&#039;s not in there. Here&#039;s one point I&#039;d like you to address though:
Most scientists think (but would be happy to be proven wrong) that the stars (apart from the sun) are billions of lightyears away, and the fact that we see them now means they existed billions of years ago. How do you explain the presence of their light? Did god put it there? How far away is it and how fast can it go?(By the way, look up the speed of light, it&#039;s about 300,000 k/h i think).

 Point is, the universe is really old, about 13 billion years. The earth, about 4.5 billion from memory. That&#039;s my point of view at the moment...What can you do to persuade me otherwise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8216;Interviewer.&#8217; It&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re challenging evolutionists. That&#8217;s what they want and I&#8217;d like to see you develop your argument. If you think it&#8217;s a &#8216;lie&#8217; (I can&#8217;t imagine the benefit to anyone about lying about this observation but you might) then present your case. Give your evidence, your side of the story. Let&#8217;s have it out.<br />
Btw, On The Origin Of The Species is about evolution and the evidence for it. Darwin didn&#8217;t know much about modern physics so of course that&#8217;s not in there. Here&#8217;s one point I&#8217;d like you to address though:<br />
Most scientists think (but would be happy to be proven wrong) that the stars (apart from the sun) are billions of lightyears away, and the fact that we see them now means they existed billions of years ago. How do you explain the presence of their light? Did god put it there? How far away is it and how fast can it go?(By the way, look up the speed of light, it&#8217;s about 300,000 k/h i think).</p>
<p> Point is, the universe is really old, about 13 billion years. The earth, about 4.5 billion from memory. That&#8217;s my point of view at the moment&#8230;What can you do to persuade me otherwise?</p>
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		<title>By: Mobyseven</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobyseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@skepy:

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/10/on-the-content-of-creationist-propaganda/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I haven&#039;t actually gone through the book yet, but all of the chapters from the original book are actually listed with page numbers associated with them, so I assume (until further notice) that it&#039;s all there.

Review copies given out (e.g. to Eugenie Scott) &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; missing chapters, but that was supposed to be rectified before the university giveaways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@skepy:</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/10/on-the-content-of-creationist-propaganda/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I haven&#8217;t actually gone through the book yet, but all of the chapters from the original book are actually listed with page numbers associated with them, so I assume (until further notice) that it&#8217;s all there.</p>
<p>Review copies given out (e.g. to Eugenie Scott) <em>were</em> missing chapters, but that was supposed to be rectified before the university giveaways.</p>
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		<title>By: skepy</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>skepy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@divisible by pi, apparently there are actually four chapters devoted to the evidence for evolution that have been mysteriously deleted. Ray comfort said that four chapters were deleted randomly in order to make the book small enough for print. Bs excuse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@divisible by pi, apparently there are actually four chapters devoted to the evidence for evolution that have been mysteriously deleted. Ray comfort said that four chapters were deleted randomly in order to make the book small enough for print. Bs excuse</p>
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		<title>By: Interviewer</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Interviewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mobyseven,

The problem is that you see creationism as a lie, and I see a most of the stuff about macro-evolution as a lie.

You say you want to get them the &#039;truth&#039;, what is truth in an atheist&#039;s eyes? Besides, if evolution has got us so far, then just let them evolve or be left behind. Anyway I hope you enjoy your copy, they&#039;re becoming a cherished collectors item. God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mobyseven,</p>
<p>The problem is that you see creationism as a lie, and I see a most of the stuff about macro-evolution as a lie.</p>
<p>You say you want to get them the &#8216;truth&#8217;, what is truth in an atheist&#8217;s eyes? Besides, if evolution has got us so far, then just let them evolve or be left behind. Anyway I hope you enjoy your copy, they&#8217;re becoming a cherished collectors item. God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: Divisible By Pi &#187; On the Content of Creationist Propaganda</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Divisible By Pi &#187; On the Content of Creationist Propaganda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had a check through the contents of the Comforted version of The Origin of Species, and it seems that the entire book is there. Previous copies of the book, such as the one given to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Creationists on Campus! &#124; Young Australian Skeptics</title>
		<link>http://www.divisiblebypi.com/2010/03/09/creationists-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Creationists on Campus! &#124; Young Australian Skeptics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cross-​​posted from Divisible By Pi [...]</description>
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